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These pages will look at the process of generating a manor and its initial setup. After that we look at how to continue maintaining the manor on an annual basis, game years that is. To help in the process I developed a spreadsheet that takes you through all of the steps for both phases. At the end of each phase I will post a link to a pdf of the manor we are using as an example. Each step of the way I will provide two links, one for the rule set and the other for the spreadsheet, the only exception being the first phase, ' Gathering Manor Data '. To begin the process you will need to identify a manor you wish to populate from one of the kingdom modules and gather the information on households, fief index, land quality, total acres, and is it held by the lord or a bailiff.

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Using Harn Manor. Hey I recently stumbled upon using Harn Manor and other related materials after some recommendations to use to helf set up a semi realistic feudal society but I still had a few questions on using it and I thought I had seen people talking about it here before. Are feudal obligations for units or just individuals. Also Can you continue building the system up representing larger holdings just by Creating one large manor say 10, acres and then defining the lesser vassal manors that make that up?

Re: Using Harn Manor. If robertsconley doesn't show up in this thread soon you may want to go and look for him as he's our local Harnspert. But feudal obligations, by their very nature, were personal if that helps. Feudalism, in as much as it ever existed, struggled with impersonal 'persons' - although collective responsibility could be foisted on groups under provisions such as sippenhaft or the presentment of Englishry.

Originally Posted by Aigol. Originally Posted by The Colonel. And so I show up :- Quote:. Heredity tended to be a weak principle in Latin Christendom; everyone wanted to inherit their father's privileges, but nobody wanted to take the chance that fortune would put the wrong person in charge of them. This is why royal succession was usually uncertain, unless the king got his magnates to agree to accept his preferred candidate while both of them were still alive, and why reformist clerics were dead set against clerical marriage because if you let clerics marry, church offices would tend to become hereditary rather than meritocratic.

Edit: You might say that an idea of personal loyalty, and an idea of hereditary loyalty, ran in parallel, with the land-authority nexus at the centre of the struggle. Something like an oath "to Queen Elizabeth II, her heirs and successors" would have been received by many medieval people with a jaundiced eye. Beam Piper. Last edited by Polydamas; at PM.

Thanks cause I am trying to use Harn Manor to create a semi-believable kingdom for a different setting from the ground up wand wasn't sure how to go about it. So Should I then figure out an average manor and figure out how many of those I need to get to my predefined requirements of either population or military size?

Also When a higher ranking noble handles several manors themselves without infeuding it to a knight or such do they just use the incomes from those manors to hire the requisite medium or heavy horse? Any help is greatly appreciated as this seems like a great tool to help me in world building and providing a more believable level of detail. Also is there info out there for handiling larger settlements outside of manor populations like larger towns and maybe cities.

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Remember Me? Mark Forums Read. Page 1 of 3. Thread Tools. Using Harn Manor Hey I recently stumbled upon using Harn Manor and other related materials after some recommendations to use to helf set up a semi realistic feudal society but I still had a few questions on using it and I thought I had seen people talking about it here before. Find More Posts by Aigol. Re: Using Harn Manor If robertsconley doesn't show up in this thread soon you may want to go and look for him as he's our local Harnspert.

Find More Posts by The Colonel. Originally Posted by Aigol Also Can you continue building the system up representing larger holdings just by Creating one large manor say 10, acres and then defining the lesser vassal manors that make that up? Find More Posts by robertsconley. Find More Posts by Peter Knutsen. Re: Using Harn Manor Heredity tended to be a weak principle in Latin Christendom; everyone wanted to inherit their father's privileges, but nobody wanted to take the chance that fortune would put the wrong person in charge of them.

Find More Posts by Polydamas. Re: Using Harn Manor Thanks cause I am trying to use Harn Manor to create a semi-believable kingdom for a different setting from the ground up wand wasn't sure how to go about it.

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Household Rules to populate the lord's household. For most lords a rich household carries prestige and a penny saved is a penny wasted. Each has a color local map, and data on each villager and retainer of the lord's household:. Avonel is a microcosm of the deadly politics of Rethem. The fief is a ward of the Earl of Ithiko and a pawn in his struggle with the Earl of Tormau. The underage Lord of Avonel simmers while a rapacious bailiff steals much of the fief's wealth. Religious strife looms between an Agrikan and Peonian cleric.

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